Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer?

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eddedrukker
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Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer?

Post by eddedrukker » Sun Sep 21, 2014 7:46 am

Hi there, where can i see what version is ok for ihomeserver v3, i want to upgrade my iTunes on my win 8 server were i run ihomeserver v3
Thanks gr Ed
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Re: were can i see what itunes is compatible?

Post by bizmodeller » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:19 pm

The latest tested version of iTunes is shown on our FAQ page: http://www.bizmodeller.com/ihomeserver/ ... r-FAQ.aspx

At the present time, that version is 11.4.0.18.

Thanks
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by rknox » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:49 am

Re: were can i see what itunes is compatible?

Post by bizmodeller » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:19 am

The latest tested version of iTunes is shown on our FAQ page: http://www.bizmodeller.com/ihomeserver/ ... r-FAQ.aspx

At the present time, that version is 11.4.0.18.

Thanks
Hi,
Where in the FAQ does it say iTunes version 11.4.0.18 is supported? When I look under "What iTunes versions are supported?" in the FAQ, it shows 11.3.1.0. This was a cause of concern, as I had been waiting on an older version of iTunes (11.1.5.5) because until this week, the FAQ had stated something like 11.1.83.0 was the latest supported. Now I see the FAQ updated to 11.3.1.0 but that version cannot be downloaded from Apple's site, as they have now released 11.4. Am I looking in the wrong place for the latest supported version?

Thanks,
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Thu Sep 25, 2014 6:58 am

Apologies - the FAQ's just been updated again - it's now correctly showing version 11.4.0.18
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by rknox » Thu Sep 25, 2014 2:33 pm

Thanks
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iTunes 11.4 update problem

Post by rknox » Thu Sep 25, 2014 8:00 pm

On a related note, I updated to 3.1.71.0 iHomeServer on my whs v1 machine - no issues. I then proceeded to update iTunes (as I have done with previous versions) to 11.4. After the download process I received an error (didn't catch it - could not proceed and suggested downloading and installing manually). I downloaded the apple files manually and ran iTunes.msi. This installed without any issues. The other .msi files, AppleApplicationSupport and AppleDeviceSupport either did not run or indicated I required later than Windows XP to install. Do I need to run these Support updates? Should I expect problems in general updating iTunes going forward? I used the whs iTunes helper the first time I installed iTunes - should I be using it again?

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Ralph
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:37 pm

If you are running WHS v1 and you have any problems installing iTunes, would recommend using the our WHS iTunes Helper as it gets around the 'requires Windows XP SP2' issue with the AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi

However, pls note that you can run our install helper in one of two ways - either point it to the main iTunesSetup.exe or you can point it straight at the AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi file and it'll just patch that file for you to run manually. I'd suggest you try this in your case to ensure you've installed all the sub-components of 11.4.

In either case, I wouldn't expect any problems updating iTunes even if you don't install these other two components, but these are Apple components so we obviously guarantee anything.
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by rknox » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:23 am

If you are running WHS v1 and you have any problems installing iTunes, would recommend using the our WHS iTunes Helper as it gets around the 'requires Windows XP SP2' issue with the AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi

However, pls note that you can run our install helper in one of two ways - either point it to the main iTunesSetup.exe or you can point it straight at the AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi file and it'll just patch that file for you to run manually. I'd suggest you try this in your case to ensure you've installed all the sub-components of 11.4.

In either case, I wouldn't expect any problems updating iTunes even if you don't install these other two components, but these are Apple components so we obviously guarantee anything.
Okay thanks, that helps. Just to be totally clear, when you use the Apple update method and an error occurs, you can then download the individual files, in this case for 11.4:
AppleApplicationSupport.msi
AppleDeviceSupport.msi
iTunes.msi
SetupAdmin.exe

As I mentioned previously I ran iTunes.msi with no issues. On your recommendation I used the WHS iTunes Helper to patch AppleDeviceSupport.msi, after which it installed properly.
What about the ApplicationSupport.msi? When I tried to run it, the only option was to uninstall (meaning there was no change?). Nothing seemed to happen when I ran SetupAdmin.exe.
Do I need to be concerned further with the latter two or am I good?

Ralph
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:26 am

ApplicationSupport.msi? When I tried to run it, the only option was to uninstall (meaning there was no change?)
I would agree.
SetupAdmin.exe
I don't believe you need to worry about this as it's just the setup wrapper/bootstrapper

So I think you are good to go....
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by JeffBDVS » Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:17 pm

Non-supported version data point:
Using iHomeServer 3.1.66.0 to start iTunes 12.0.1.26 on the desktop results in iTunes "forgetting" the window size and location from when it was closed (or more accurately - restarted in the background). It defaults back to a small window anchored in the top left corner of the display. I did not kill or disable iHomeServer to see if the same behavior occurs when iTunes 12 operates on its own.

EDIT: Using Windows 8.1.

Cheers,
Jeff
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Sat Nov 01, 2014 11:10 am

Thanks Jeff,

Good to know if anyone else is seeing this or other issues with iTunes 12 - FYI we can't reproduce this one yet......
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iTunes 12.0.1.26 Update Problem

Post by rknox » Tue Dec 02, 2014 5:41 pm

I was trying to update iTunes to 12.0.1.26 on my whs v1 system. iTunes installer detects unsupported system for AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi and quits. When I tried iTunesHelper, either method, I get an error:

CScript Error: Can't find script engine "JScript" for script: C:\Documents ... \tmp56.tmp.js.
C:\Documents ... \AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi Patched Response - NO_RESPONSE

Thanks,
Ralph
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by rknox » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:41 pm

Anyone?
I was trying to update iTunes to 12.0.1.26 on my whs v1 system. iTunes installer detects unsupported system for AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi and quits. When I tried iTunesHelper, either method, I get an error:

CScript Error: Can't find script engine "JScript" for script: C:\Documents ... \tmp56.tmp.js.
C:\Documents ... \AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi Patched Response - NO_RESPONSE

Thanks,
Ralph
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:02 am

For others reading this thread, the error Ralph has raised is with the WHS iTunes Helper util which helps install iTunes onto WHS v1 (overcoming the AppleMobileDeviceSupport.msi issue).

This has been tested with iTunes 12, however, Ralph - the issue you are getting looks more like a system config error because our WHS iTunes Helper util can't run JavaScript on your system.

Please have a look at the following article on how to resolve it. We've had a user in the past with a similar issue and he resolved it following the Windows XP version of the instructions on his WHS v1 box:

http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/2 ... files.html

Let me know if this works.
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by rknox » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:49 am

Ralph - the issue you are getting looks more like a system config error because our WHS iTunes Helper util can't run JavaScript on your system.

Please have a look at the following article on how to resolve it. We've had a user in the past with a similar issue and he resolved it following the Windows XP version of the instructions on his WHS v1 box:

http://www.winhelponline.com/articles/2 ... files.html

Let me know if this works.
Thanks. That worked perfectly. Version 12 installed.

Ralph
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by elbartino » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:54 am

I've not upgraded to the latest iTunes on my server running iHomeserver, but I've noticed on my mac Home Sharing doesn't seem to be present have have read it looks like something Apple have done because of the new apple music service. Is that going to affect iHome server future versions?
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by elbartino » Thu Jul 16, 2015 3:51 pm

Any one????
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by bizmodeller » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:13 pm

The issue is actually iOS 8.4 rather than iTunes itself - essentially the new Apple Music app that replaces the previous Music app doesn't support Home Sharing at this moment in time. Looks like they rushed it out without the feature. iHomeServer uses iTunes Home Sharing under the covers so will be affected for iOS 8.4 clients

We understand from Apple that Home Sharing will return in iOS 9 due (theoretically) this autumn, so this should only be a temporary thing.

See here - http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/07/ed ... for-ios-9/
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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by jchargu3 » Sun Aug 23, 2015 11:54 pm

Hi everyone. Long time user, first time poster.... Figured I would give my findings on 12.2.2.25 64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards (the current release for the older cards issue)

Due to a failed raid OS array, I decided to load my media server fresh and install Windows 10 Pro (upgrading from Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center Add-in)

Prior to having to rebuild I was running 8.1 pro with IHS 3.1.76.0.I had also upgraded to one of the 12.X releases. Required the installation of a 64-bit for older graphics cards release. (Unfortunately I didn't write the version number down and have lost that installation file). But everything was still working fine. I had the new iTunes + Apple music and IHS working with my appletv/network without issues.

Here are my findings since installing with 12.2.2.25/Windows 10
On my server, Windows 10 Pro and IHS 3.1.76.0 seem to get along fine from what I've seen so far, unless you add a PIN password, then it has problems with Authentication. (I'm sticking to my long passwords as I feel they are much more secure than 4 digits.). 12.2.2.25 (64-Bit for older graphics cards) also works. IHS sees it, IHS can import into the library, but that seems to be where the positives end.

IHS will see it (12.2.2.25), IHS will add/index movies from my D:\MOVIES watched folder, and SOME shorter movies were playable with AppleTV3 and iTunes in interactive mode (I was very surprised to see this!). However, when you click on iTunes View tab in IHS you can't manage or view the library at all. When I logged in via the web access (localhost:42050) the landing page would state something along the lines of "Waiting for itunes to start, check status tab" instead of showing your normal library view. Status tab shows iTunes was started and running. There were no errors in the logs. I found this strange since I could play some files on the ATV3.

So it seems 12.2.2.25 does "function", but is limited to what you can do with it. I'm trying to find install files for 12.2.1.16 as I think that may be the version I had prior to losing the drive. I can only seem to find 12.2.1.7 though and that doesn't have the apple music release in it. If I can find the 12.2.1.16 file somewhere, I'll report back with my findings.


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Re: Which versions of iTunes are compatible with iHomeServer

Post by jchargu3 » Mon Aug 24, 2015 12:48 am

It took a LOT of digging but I was able to find a legitimate 12.2.1.16 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) Installer, apple has hidden it completely. Here is what I've tested. I hope this helps.

Windows 10 Pro (with standard alphanumeric password, no pin)
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.2.25 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (includes apple music)
LIMITED functionality. Will import files from watch folder to library (434 movies). Can not manage library via IHS's "iTunes View" tab. Longer/larger mp4's wouldn't play via Apple TV3 (2+ hour and 8+gb in size) However small movies/files were fine. Could play all files via iTunes interactive mode.

DID NOT TEST 12.2.2.25 WITH PIN as I was aware it wasn't going to function properly.

Windows 10 Pro (with standard alphanumeric password, no pin)
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.16 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (includes apple music)
All functions worked correctly (to my finding)

Windows 10 Pro (with 4 digit pin password)
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.16 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (includes apple music)
IHS works, but it will not authenticate to start as a service. You can get it to run in app mode just fine.

Windows 10 Pro (with standard alphanumeric password, no pin)
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.7 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (prior to apple music)
All functions worked correctly (to my finding)

Windows 10 Pro (with 4 digit pin password)
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.7 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (prior to apple music)
IHS works, but it will not authenticate to start as a service. You can get it to run in app mode as mentioned above but it's not as fun!

Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Add-In
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.2.25 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (includes apple music)
LIMITED functionality. Will import files from watch folder to library (434 movies). Can not manage library via IHS's "iTunes View" tab. Longer/larger mp4's wouldn't play via Apple TV3 (2+ hour and 8+gb in size) However small movies/files were fine. Could play all files via iTunes interactive mode, oddly enough.

Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Add-In
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.16 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (WITH apple music)
All functions worked correctly (to my finding)

Windows 8 Pro with Media Center Add-In
IHS 3.1.76.0
iTunes 12.2.1.7 (64-Bit for Older Graphics Cards) (prior to apple music)
All functions worked correctly (to my finding)


Beer time. :D
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